2011年2月28日 星期一

淺股動脈阻塞病人的新福音

有做下肢周邊動脈阻塞患者的內外科醫師都知道
目前下肢動脈阻塞的支架選擇上
以life stent 為許多醫師心目中的首選
不只因為他的材質特殊抗彎折
大型的研究報告發現此支架為短期暢通率最好的一個選擇
甚至一兩年的結果不比外科手術作周邊動脈繞道差
只是每次家屬都需自費這個支架非常多錢
讓人非常心疼

很高興知道健保局於去年針對這個支架開會做成決議
已正式同意這個支架將納入健保給付
預計四月一號就可以正式上路
將可以造福許多這類患者
外科醫師也不再需要痛苦的找出病人還沒塞掉的血管辛苦的做個繞道手術然後只能卑微的期待這條血管可以暢通個兩三年, 期間可能還要反覆的做血栓清除或者再次繞道手術, 讓外科醫師對付這類病人可以多一種武器; 相當不錯; 而且這次健保規定最犀利的一點是只要是, ABI<0.4,休息也疼痛, 以及無法癒合傷口三種狀況的threatening limb患者, 即使阻塞狹窄超過16cm長, 只要膝蓋下殘存一條以上可用血管或者可以做膝蓋下動脈氣球擴張或者血管整型手術者都可以適用, 簡直鼓勵醫師挑戰TASC II guideline 中type C or D的病人, 幾乎已經達到世界一流國家挑戰周邊動脈阻塞的最高標準, 值得鼓掌鼓掌!!!!哈哈哈實在太厲害了這些"審核專家" 們!!!!!!!!!



全民健康保險特殊材料專家小組第41次會議紀錄
開會時間:991014(星期四)上午9
開會地點:本局九樓第一會議室
出列席單位及人員:如會議簽到單
主席:李委員丞華(健保局副總經理陽明大學醫管系教授) (沈委員茂庭 (健保局醫管處經理) 代)             紀錄:周清蓮
壹、    主席致詞(略)
 
提案二(心內、血管外科)
案由:有關巴德股份有限公司申請新增特材「〝安吉美爾德〞巴德萊弗丹血管支架(淺股動脈血管支架)」之健保給付適應症及使用規範乙案,提請討論。
結論:建議適應症訂定如下:
      1:1氣球擴張術治療後,殘餘狹窄達50%以上,且該長度超過30mm  或合併前向血流未達正常(TIMI FLOW=< span>並符合下列條件之一:
一、      藥物無法改善之間歇性跛行(ABI<0.7):影像檢查顯示為狹窄程度大於75%且長度小於16公分內之 SFA病灶,且遠端無有效之側枝循環時。
二、      危急性肢體缺血Critical Limb Ischemia(ABI<0.4,
resting pain or poor wound healing)
:為保留肢體免於截肢,SFA病灶長度可不限於16公分內,但必須於血管攝影下至少有一條通
往足部之血管或合併進行膝下血管整形術。

2011年2月10日 星期四

從沒看過的一例急性上肢缺血!

急性下肢動脈阻塞在心臟血管外科是容易見到的毛病
多半是因為病人有心臟功能異常心率不整
產生的血栓血塊塞到下肢股動脈中造成急性下肢缺氧壞死
同樣下肢動脈完全塞掉
病人嚴重度可以從完全沒有血液至腳底小腿大腿造成很快出現蒼白冰冷麻木疼痛的急性
" 下肢中風 " 般的症狀甚至最後造成小腿腳部完全無法運動最後出現屍斑壞疽進展快速非常嚴重的
緊急狀況
也可以是一點症狀主要是病人雖然有血栓
可是在血管阻塞前還有小小的側枝循環提供阻塞後的動脈遠端血流供應
雖然不夠
卻不會造成嚴重缺氧壞死的緊急狀況

最讓我有印象的一個病人
因為心率不整血栓發現左手突發性無力麻木
急診室醫師很快就發現該側肱骨動脈摸不到脈搏
電腦斷層血管攝影馬上診斷出來是血栓塞在手肘附近的動脈造成整個前臂缺血
病人的手麻痛冰冷蒼白非常厲害的症狀在緊急手術後恢復很好
沒有什麼併發症
回到門診
病人提到兩腳前幾年也有類似症狀
可是在他大量喝普洱茶清血後救" 慢慢" 好了?????
我職業性的摸了一下病人兩腳足背動脈

摸不到
再摸一下後脛骨動脈
也是不確定摸得到脈搏跳動
最後摸到膕動脈股動脈
確定病人兩腳也有血栓塞到股動脈可是兩隻腳的溫度卻是正常無比
可是病人發病幾年後可以到處走動爬山完全沒有任何症狀
屬於慢性動脈阻塞第一級的病人
不需手術
.....

每一年急診室總會診斷出這類的病人至少五六個
塞在下肢髂骨動脈股動脈的較多
塞在上肢肱動脈橈動脈的比較少也因為此處常有豐富側枝循環
病人的症狀較不明顯也比較容易發生延遲診斷的問題


所以當我聽到外院轉來一個因為不名原因上肢動脈阻塞在外院已經接受過導管手術
外科手術還接受上肢手臂筋膜切開術還有指頭壞疽的患者
我就很好奇
因為急性上肢動脈阻塞搞到這個嚴重手術這麼大我只有在外傷的患者見過

這個病人聽說喜歡做伏地挺身掉單槓舉啞鈴的運動
一年多前因為" 運動傷害" 造成左肩膀靠近肩窩的地方受傷腫痛
"慢慢的" 自己就好了
這次在一次運動後突然發現左手無力麻痛整隻手蒼白冰冷跑到一家醫院檢查
立刻診斷是左手急性動脈阻塞
緊急使用導管手術企圖做血栓溶解及清除還有氣球擴張手術
結果失敗
轉到外科使用手術清除血塊聽說效果也不好
最後因為手臂缺氧太嚴重
還請整形外科做筋膜切開企圖減少腫脹壓迫增加末稍血液循環

轉來我們醫院
是因為手術後好幾天
手指頭末端還是逐漸壞疽
手指溫度不足
手掌手臂腫脹
我們醫院重新做了一次電腦斷層血管攝影

可以發現在左側鎖骨下動脈的地方有一個變形腫大的血管瘤以及斷斷續續的動脈血流似乎在腋下
有血管不連續的現象

血管走到手肘則只有走在不正常位置的小條動脈似乎還供應前臂
手掌及手指則沒有合成的影像
內科醫師趕緊幫他做一個傳統的動脈攝影以為可以做個心導管手術的處理


發現腋下動脈的血管呈現不規則狀基本上沒有血管阻塞的現象可是看起來是不正常腫大的腔室
應該是左側鎖骨下動脈瘤沒錯

在電腦斷層上似乎斷斷續續的腋下動脈在傳統血管攝影上則可以發現管腔還好只有肱動脈
有一些殘餘血塊貼在管壁上


這張圖與上一張大致一樣

可以看到原先醫院在手肘上橈動脈切開血管的地方血管修補造成一些動脈狹窄與內膜不平整


這就是電腦斷層上看不清楚的前臂動脈分枝看不出來是還有一些前臂動脈支應到前臂遠端
一樣內科醫師沒有做手掌與手指動脈血供應的檢查
只是跟家屬說血管基本上都是通的
沒什麼好做處理的

我被會診一開始也是看不清楚為甚麼病人左側鎖骨下動脈會如此彎曲脹大的怪樣
也不知道為甚麼病人會造成這次的急性動脈阻塞
一直到我調出原本還沒重組的橫切面電腦斷層影像
我才發現
病人的左鎖骨下動脈除了管腔擴大彎曲變形之外
血管外還有類似血腫塊的軟組織影像包圍住動脈管腔
這應該是之前鎖骨下動脈破裂出血之後造成血管壁嚴重破損可是卻幸運的被血腫塊包圍住
形成我們所謂的假性動脈瘤
原來動脈攝影上看起來彎曲變形漲大的管腔根本是沒有正常血管內膜的血管通道

當我看完這些影像後馬上很有信心的跟家屬以及值班醫師解釋我認為病人的發病過程
應該是之前先發生一次動脈受傷破損出血
形成假性動脈瘤
又因為血液在動脈瘤裡面打轉走在沒有正常內膜的腔室中引起高位的血栓形成
難怪病人的發病這麼猛烈
現在可以做的除了再做手背手指的筋膜切開術減少水腫增加指頭循環之外
再加上一些藥物
還要在適當的時候做一個血管內的包覆性支架手術


這樣的急性上肢動脈阻塞
絕對可以做一個非常少見的病例報告!
也告誡我們
傳統血管攝影以及重組的電腦斷層血管攝影都無法正確的看到這類假性動脈瘤的全貌
反而是橫切片的電腦斷層片才能見真章
跟腹主動脈瘤一模一樣
差一點考倒醫院的專家了...

2011年2月5日 星期六

化膿性細菌性腹主動脈瘤

外科訓練出來的各個級層醫師自從沒有在跟我們十多年前受訓的時候一樣
我覺得看片能力普遍下降

以前我們每天早上都有固定的混科晨會
由外科部主任親自主持
總有人負責將有趣的一些主任挑選的病例與自己值班時發現的任何有趣病例跟放射科
櫃臺或者病房小姐借出X光片與電腦斷層片兩三大疊資料夾自由的拿到外科大辦公室討論
各個有興趣指導的主任醫師主治醫師就一邊吃著早餐準備門診或者上課資料一邊聽我們
報告病例並提供各刻必要的諮詢指導
幾年下來
可以看到許多奇奇怪怪的片子
對自己面對門診的急診的會診的困難病例也越來越有把握

我還記得
有個總醫師連腹主動脈瘤破裂的電腦斷層片都沒有看出來
以為後腹腔的出血血腫塊因為沒有顯影劑外漏不可能是一顆不到五公分的腹主動脈瘤破裂所致
可能只是 腰大肌出血 所致
結果沒有讓主治醫師做出立即手術的正確判斷
還好隔天病人雖然仍處於輕度失血性休克還來得及緊急開刀搶救
結局就是過兩三天的晨會被拿出來公幹好好的”指導 ”一番

雖然大家都神情緊張的接受心臟外科醫師的無情訕笑責罵
我們都知道
唯有拿出各種有趣的可供教學學習的片子
多多請教前輩醫師才能增進自己的看片能力
這是要作一個夠資格的臨床醫師非常需要訓練的知識

我記得
曾經與胸腔外科主任會診一位小兒科主任醫師的病人
其實是非常罕見的先天肺氣泡壓迫心包膜腔造成新生小兒血壓不穩的休克狀態
偏偏只要有經驗的醫師幾乎可以用一個簡單的胸部X光片就可以正確診斷出來
我們一大堆小醫師跟著胸腔外科主任
大家七嘴八舌的各提一個有機會出現在縱隔腔的大型氣泡疾病有哪些
反正當初的醫學還在google 仍還沒出現,
不可能像現在只要輸入足夠多的徵候症狀它甚至可以告訴您很可能的正確答案
大家就是胡猜一通再一個個通過大家的驗證
就像現在豪斯醫生影集演得一樣才是
可是只聽到小兒科主任一個個否認我們的腦力激盪發想
臭屁的說您們看過幾個肺囊腫氣泡腫瘤心包膜囊腫.....
非常鄙視地笑著說    一個???還是兩個?????

當場讓我們一大群小醫師難看
我非常看不起這種醫師的教學態度!@#$%^&
讓我這麼多年還一直記得當初他的嘴臉
從此我更發憤圖強
發誓要盡量看盡一切疑難雜症的片子
不只看一例兩例還要多多益善地大肆蒐集這些珍貴病例的影像檔
希望有一天也要讓該主任知道我們的經驗也會隨著時間快速累積

在以前沒有電腦影像檔的時代
我總是準備一台nikon FM2 搭配55mm微距鏡頭還有環形閃燈
或者拿出主任珍貴的F3搭配100mm大砲微距鏡頭
抽屜裡面永遠準備著一大盒正片底片
總是在各種討論會後拿著相機拼命拍照
也曾經將醫院過去幾年內開過刀的幾十例特殊病例的影像檔案全部借出一一翻看拍照歸檔
整理收集了好多年許多珍貴影像
製作成可以隨時上課使用的幻燈片
也期望自己可以隨時快速而有系統的跟學弟妹介紹這些珍貴檔案

曾幾何時
電腦影像進步一日千里
不管那個醫護人員都可以將患者的影像檔下載至隨身碟中
儲存自己覺得有趣受用良多的影像
我抽屜中幾千片的幻燈片一搬家就全被老婆丟掉了
說實在的
以前收集的那些當初自以為非常珍貴的影像
在日後的醫療生涯中豈止出現過五次十次搞不好都超過百次了
等到學弟妹開始羨慕崇拜的看著我們在會議中解讀影像時
我漸漸知道
醫學就是在一大堆的影像記憶經驗中
很快就分出高低了.............

前幾天
急診室值班醫師呼叫我說有個腹主動脈疑似剝離的患者想找我看一看
我在家裡調出影像一看趕緊打電話到急診去詢問
病人是否有發燒拉肚子
果然
是個細菌性腹主動脈瘤的病人
病人先是發燒一天後連續拉了三天肚子然後突然肚子劇痛難忍送來急診
可能原本有個小小的腹主動脈瘤因為沙門氏桿菌的感染破裂漲大成葫蘆的形狀

有些切面還有疑似顯影記外露的樣子
看起來很像腹主動脈剝離或者以為是腹主動脈瘤破裂
其實是細菌感染造成的假性腹主動脈瘤
也還沒破裂

另外在更低一點的腹主動脈上
還看到膿包樣的發炎物質包在還算正常的腹主動脈旁邊
證實是一個嚴重急性感染化膿的狀態
雖然聽說許多外科醫師不管病人有無膿包還是堅持可以使用主動脈支架簡單處理
我個人是非常不贊同
完全沒跟家屬或者急診學弟提到這樣的病例有不開刀的選擇
開玩笑, 將一條人工血管埋在膿包裡面還希望病人都可以沒事過關
@#$%︿&
又不是病人老到不適合開刀了唷

心裡想得亂七八糟
我還是趕緊跟急診醫師稍微講解一下也希望他下次遇到一樣的影像
可以非常有自信的直接告訴我這是  細菌性腹主動脈瘤( mycotic aneurysm )
要趕快安排開刀
我睡覺都會笑唷

2011年2月2日 星期三

使用洗腎機器來做葉克膜 What a great issue!

每每在值班的夜裡擔心全醫院的葉克膜已經全部用完不知如何面對重症患者家屬殷盼的眼神

有時甚至在想
如果廠商可以便宜賣給我或租給我幾台機器的話
我甚至想跳離醫院管理中心的”管理"
自己提供機器給亟需的病患使用
去他的神經病成本與效益管理!

因為只要有一個危險急救的病人因為這台機器搶救回來就不枉我們的辛苦了

我趁著等著開急診刀的空檔在網路上閒逛
發現早有人未雨綢繆這個葉克膜短缺的問題
想出一個絕妙的主意
能不能試著用各家醫院都有的洗腎機器
稍做改裝
利用他最大連續血流可以達到600cc/min 的效果
幫助前一波因為H1N1感冒病毒Swine flue 進展成嚴重呼吸窘迫症低血氧的小小孩患者

看著作者與阿拉伯聯合大公國一個小兒科住院醫師一來一往的詳細討論
令人感動涕零
搞不好可以聯絡一下新生兒加護病房的主治醫師跟腎臟科醫師好好研究一下
看來真的可行!!!

 

Using a Dialysis Machine to do ECMO

(There is more on ECMO on my Oct 1, 2009 Posting)

Many of the recent case reports indicate that sophisticated machines are required to treat the patients infected by the current novel H1N1 strain of influenza. Basic ventilators such as the existing Pandemic Ventilator Project designs may not be adequate for these H1N1 patients that develop ARDS. Pandemic Ventilator Project type units, however could possibly be utilized on other existing patients to free up more sophisticated equipment for patients requiring advanced therapies. I have also found a design for high frequency oscillatory ventilator that I posted (here).

Another technology that almost certainly will be in shortage during the pandemic is access to ECMO (Extra Corporeal Membrane Oxygenation) machines. ECMO machines oxygenate the blood directly using a gas permeable membrane. These machines can keep people with severely damaged lungs alive long enough for their bodies to repair their damaged lung tissues. There is very little of this equipment around. Many centers do not have any ECMO machines, or have only one.

Consider this:
An ECMO machine pumps blood from the patient, adds an anticoagulant, runs it past a gas exchange membrane to remove CO2 and add O2, regulates the blood temperature with a heat exchanger, removes air bubbles via drip chambers, checks incoming and return pressures, and has safety systems to ensure air is not infused, or pressure limits are not exceeded.

A dialysis machine pumps blood from the patient, adds an anticoagulant, runs it past a dialyzing membrane to stabilize electrolytes and remove toxins and fluid, regulates the blood temperature by controlling dialysate temperature, removes air bubbles via drip chambers, checks incoming and return pressures, and has safety systems to ensure air is not infused, or that pressure limits are not exceeded.
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They are pretty similar eh?
Note that terminology for blood access is opposite in ECMO vs hemodialysis.
  • In ECMO, the port where the blood is drawn into the pump is termed the Venous line and the port where the blood is returned to the body is termed the Arterial line.
  • In Hemodialysis, the port where the blood is drawn into the pump is termed the Arterial line and the port where the blood is returned to the body is termed the Venous line.
  • In CRRT, (a form of hemodialysis) the port where the blood is drawn into the pump is termed the access line, and the port where the blood is returned to the body is termed the Return line.
The Hemodialysis picture is from METU BIOMAT, and the ECMO picture is from Medscape. (Note there is an error in the Medscape ECMO drawing, both pressure ports are named "Post-Membrane Pressure Monitor". The lower one should be named "Pre-Membrane Pressure Monitor) Note also that fluids and heparin are normally infused post pump in hemodialysis, as this method is usually considered a safer method. Air removal, and monitoring safety systems are also not in the ECMO picture. Both VV-ECMO and Hemodialysis can use a Jugular Venous Dual Lumen Catheter for access.

VA-ECMO vs. VV-ECMOThere are two types of ECMO. VA-ECMO or Venous-Arterial ECMO, has a more complicated method of attaching to the patients circulation system. VA-ECMO operation is similar to the use of a heart-lung bypass machine in that it replaces the function of both the heart and lungs of a patient. VV-ECMO or Venous-Venous ECMO, has a less complicated method of blood system access. It is done using high flow central line catheters similar to the ones used for dialysis. It replaces only the lung function of the patient.

Some patients with H1N1 are getting lung damage and progressing to ARDS. They may require ECMO because their lungs are so damaged that they can no longer provide enough gas exchange to maintain other body functions. A ventilator may not be adequate in these situations. The heart is not usually compromised. These patients could benefit from VV-ECMO if a machine was available. As stated earlier, available ECMO machines would probably be in very short supply during the pandemic.

You can see that the equipment for ECMO is very similar to the equipment required to perform dialysis. In fact CRRT or SCUF are sometimes done in order to control electrolyte and fluid volume levels by adding a dialyser to an ECMO machine without needing any additional equipment.

It seems to me that one could do VV-ECMO treatments using a dialysis machine with a diffusion membrane oxygenator attached in line on the blood tubing set. Some extra gas and oxygen regulators and controls may also be required. If a standard hemodialysis machine is used, it can be run at a low dialysis flow rate (available on machines such as the Fresenius 2008K) to run in a SLED (Sustained Low Efficiency Dialysis) mode continuously. I would like to hear comments from people that have worked with ECMO equipment to hear if they think this is at all feasible.

This Just in (Sept 15, 2009)

Article in New York Times about ECMO use in H1N1 pandemic and potential shortage of ECMO machines.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/16/health/research/16flu.html

Lancet article about the efficacy of ECMO for severe influenza treatment.
http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(09)61069-2/fulltext

Bloomberg article on using ECMO for near death swine flu cases.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601080&sid=a3B182GF_auk

Belfast Telegraph article about ECMO
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/health/article14493762.ece;jsessionid=80D2A25F7E4033BF410D32971134D6DA?postingType=posting&mode=thanks&postingId=14493924

Update, Sept 18 2009

I have been thinking about this doing ECMO using a dialysis machine for a few days now. So far I have not had any comments either for or against on this blog.

I have done some further research into the equipment required for ECMO and some of the problems with ECMO therapies. It appears that maintaining systemic coagulation using heparin is sometimes a problem. Patients may not properly respond to the heparin therapy, they may have allergies, or there may be bleeding problems associated with systemic coagulation. These are problems that are also very common in hemodialysis and CRRT therapies. One solution to this problem is to use regional citrate anticoagulation. Citrate is infused into the blood circuit at the blood access port to initiate anticoagulation and calcium is infused at the blood return port to cancel the effect of the infused citrate.

This can be more complex than straightforward heparin infusion because the infusion of these chemicals also alters the calcium, pH, fluid volume and sodium levels of the patient. In CRRT and SLED therapies these parameters are monitored and controlled by adjusting the sodium and bicarbonate levels of the dialyzing and infusion fluids. Patient fluid volumes are also easily controlled by the dialysis machine.

Regional citrate anticoagulation has been shown to significantly extend the filter (dialyser) life compared to heparin coagulation by reducing clotting. It is sometimes used when the patient has HIT (Heparin Induced Thrombocytopenia). Regional citrate anticoagulation can also reduce other complications that would occur when using systemic anticoagulation protocols.

During a pandemic, it may be difficult to obtain enough membrane oxygenators to do ECMO. It is reasonable to assume that regional citrate anticoagulation could also extent the serviceable life of the membrane oxygenator by reducing clotting in the device. It will be important to make the best use of whatever supplies one has on hand. If it is indeed possible to use a dialysis machine to do ECMO, and also employ regional citrate anticoagulation with it, this could be a good way to save more lives with the possibly limited supplies available.

Here is a link to a PubMed abstract of an ASAIO journal article about using regional citrate anticoagulation with ECMO.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16883129?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

Some More Info if this Intrigues You...
JAMA article shows that most patients with severe H1N1 that are treated with ECMO survive http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/2009.1535
Some general Info on ECMO systems and complications
http://www.anzcp.org/CCP/Clinical%20applications/ecmo.htm

Here is a link to a Patent for an ECMO system
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=QoIcAAAAEBAJ&dq=ECMO

CDC info on the use of ECMO and CRRT on novel A H1N1 patients.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm58d0710a1.htm



Response to the first comment by Anonymous (see below)
Thank you for your comments. I have been waiting to get some feedback on this issue. Just to clarify, ELSO is Extracorporeal Life Support Organization centered at the University of Michigan.

Now you have question about the origin, purpose and legitimacy of the Pandemic Ventilator Project. It was started on Feb 22, 2007 to promote alternative methods of supplying additional ventilators during a pandemic. In order to reduce the death toll of people either ill from a pandemic or those who would be denied life support so that the ventilator they are using could be used to save a pandemic victim (due to triage protocols). Now when you question legitimacy, I am not quite sure what you are after. I am not trying to defraud or manipulate anyone, and my motives for the project are entirely humanitarian. It is not a commercial venture; in fact I have spent a fair bit of my own time and money on it. All of my work and postings are available for you to view and see for yourself. Now if by legitimacy, you mean authority, I really have none. The opinions I express are my own. It is up to the reader to determine if my arguments are rational and my sources of information are valid.

Now when you warn against an untrained person just setting up ECMO on a dialysis machine when no prior testing or feasibility studies have been done you are absolutely correct. When I proposed this idea, it was for people that are qualified to do ECMO treatments to try to find innovative alternative ways to provide this potentially life saving treatment even if there were a shortage of existing ECMO equipment during a pandemic. I was hoping that knowledgeable people could look at the idea and see if they could make it work safely rather than dismiss it out of hand. Perhaps a someone could find a solution to this problem with the pumps that you mentioned.

Now when you assuredly state that there will be NO shortage of ECMO systems in the US, I do not think you can say that for sure. When we have Dr. Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota (CIDRAP) http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/ worried about a shortage of ECMO machines http://legal-ledger.com/item.cfm?recID=12283 , http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/health/59253022.html?elr=KArksD:aDyaEP:kD:aUbP:P:Q_V_MPQLa7PYDUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUHDYaGEP7eyckcUr, and with Dr Dr. Giles Peek of Glenfield Hospital in Leicester, England talking about how few the number of ECMO machines are available in Britain. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/booster_shots/2009/09/bypassing-lungs-helps-swine-flu-pneumonia-victims.html The World Health Organization is also warning developed countries "to anticipate this increased demand on intensive care units, which could be overwhelmed by a sudden surge in the number of severe cases." http://news.eirna.com/209051/h1n109-who-issues-warning-on-second-wave-of-pandemic

There is agood chance that the current H1N1 pandemic will remain mild and within the ability of our current infrastructure and surge capacity to manage, But I do not believe anyone can definitely say that this will be the case.

What you say about legal liabilities is unfortunately sadly true. The heroic measures undertaken by individuals during the polio epidemic to build their own ventilators to save the lives of children could never happen in today’s legal liability climate. The only hope for that is if legislatures provide legal liability exemptions to the individuals that decide who gets which machine and treatment in a pandemic. Under today’s legal climate it is more prudent for a physician let his patient die by denying access to a potentially life saving treatment than to risk a lawsuit by using an uncertified device.

I must say in defence of any nephrology professionals that read this, hemodialysis is also a type of life supporting treatment that is done extracorporeally. Most of the complications that can occur in VV-ECMO can also occur in hemodialysis. Hemodialysis is routinely done in a safe mode by trained individuals. There were over 300,000 patients safely dialyzed for more than 150 million hours of treatment in more than 4000 centers in the US last year alone.

Clarence Graansma

13 comments:

Anonymous said...
This is my first exposure to this site so I am uncertain as to it's origin, purpose, or legitimacy.
But anyone reading this should understand that extracorporeal life support (ECMO, ECLS) is an established life support for critically ill patients. There are over 120 ECMO centers that report to ELSO. Over 40,000 patients have been reported to ELSO since 1989. There are guidelines for who should be trained to do ECMO and how that training should occur. There are guidelines for how hospitals should go about establishing an ECMO program.
Although there are many similarities between Dialysis pumps and ECMO pumps...they are significantly different. It would be foolish for an institution to try to provide extracoporeal life support with a modified Dialysis circuit. The legal liabilities would be incredible. We are not going to have a shortage of ECMO Systems in the U.S. The ECMO community is well aware of the issues with H1N1 and are adequately preparing to provide the necessary support. This may require transporting a very ill H1N1 patient. But that can be done safely and there are processes in place to make that happen.
September 26, 2009 10:04 AM
Anonymous said...
I am an ICU specialist. ECMO is not of proven value. Even the biggest study to date a had deeply flawed methodology, and is unreliable. My experience is that people can safely survive very low levels of oxygen well below the threshold at which ECMO fans start ECMO. Provided people do not panic and keep doing simple things, normal ventilation will suffice for most patients. What kills patients is when their doctors try too hard to achieve normal oxygenation in this most abnormal situation. Certainly I have looked after a niumber of patients who have tolerate oxygen saturations around 75% for a week or more when many people would give up or suggest ECMO. It is unnecessary.
September 29, 2009 5:14 PM
Anonymous said...
As for ecmo thank God for it. My 22 year old daughter has been on it for the last eight days due to complications from the swine flu.Both of her lungs at the start were completely messed up now her left lung looks completely normal and her right lung is recovering but much much slower. Prior to being put on ecmo she spent 10 days in the icu on a ventilator with no improvements whatsoever!
October 2, 2009 3:02 PM
Ed said...
Dear Clarence Graansma,
This is a very interesting topic and I like the way you are thinking outside the box to explore options for the "what ifs". As a perfusionist who has been involved in ECMO (neonatal, pediatric and adult)for over 20 years, I believe that we could very well have a severe ECMO resource (staffing & equipment)crisis.

My first thought regarding improvising a hemodialysis apparatus to do ECMO would be possible pump blood flow limitations. An adult on ECMO (VV or VA) may require blood flow rates of 3 - 6 liters/min. Dialysis is much lower flow rate, I'm sure. Could a larger Diameter pump raceway tubing be used on these systems?
October 9, 2009 10:55 AM
Ed said...
But as your links indicate ... the dialysis machine appears capable to perform ECMO on babies.
October 9, 2009 11:05 AM
Dreamer said...
Thanks for the feedback Ed.

Dialysis machine blood pump flows typically max out at about 500 to 600 ml/min. I am most familiar with the Fresenius 2008K. You can get the operators manual and technical manuals here. http://www.fmcna.com/productsdoc.html

The 2008K maximum is 600 ml/min. The allowable tubing sizes that can be put in the standard pump head range from 2mm to 10mm. It should be possible to use large diameter tubing and then program the pump as if it were small diameter tubing. This would increase the actual blood flow through the pump however the display would still read the lower value. There is still a practical limit though. The machine also has load sensing circuitry to detect stalls, overloading and jamming of the pump head. I could test this and see what the maximum flow I could get out of the machine without triggering the overload function. These machines also allow more than one pump to be used at a time. Dual pumps are often used for single needle dialysis modes. The pumps then alternate from each other. It would not be difficult to “enhance” the circuitry to enable two pumps to run at the same time (in parallel) while still maintaining the safety systems that stop the pumps in the event of pressures out of range or air being found in the return line.
October 10, 2009 5:07 PM
Dreamer said...
I did some testing on a dialysis machine today. Although the specifications in the manual say that pump tubing diameter sizes from 2mm to 10mm can be used, the pump only has settings for 2.4, 4.8, 6.4 and 8 mm diameters. The pump roller guides and pump raceway and tubing retainers will accept tubing up to 10mm in diameter though. When the diameter setting of the pump is changed to a smaller size, the maximum rate setting is also reduced. I did some testing to see what the maximum output at the various settings would be using 8mm tubing. These are the results

Tubing ID……Max setting….Actual Flow Rate (ml/min)
2.4…………...86……………693
4.8………….274……………704
6.4………….465……………693
8.0………….600……………600

The maximum actual flow seems to be at the 4.8 setting. The output of the pump is proportional to the area of the tubing. 10mm tubing would have an area 156% greater than 8mm tubing. We should be able to expect a maximum flow rate for one pump of 1.1 liters/min using 10mm tubing. With 2 pumps we could get 2.2 liters/min.
October 13, 2009 11:01 AM
Ed said...
Dreamer,
That's good to know. These machines would be suitable for ECMO application in neonates, infants, and pediatric patients <10 kg. I am not sure what the afterload limitations would be for dialysis units, but I think that using the new polymethylpentene hollow fiber oxygenators would be most suitable rather than the old workhorse silcone oxygenators which have a very high resistance across them (and are most often used by ELSO centers).
October 16, 2009 2:27 PM
Anonymous said...
The idea sounds novel . But flow limitation will make it impractical. Alhough studies have shown that hemolysis is not factor between vortex and roller pumps, I am not too sure about these tiny pumps hitting on even tinier tubings in a dialysis machine.

Perhaps in infants and neonates, but even then, most times we tend to aim for flows between 800mls and a liter. Dialysis machine flow rates are too little and too close a margin to play around. You may not have the flow rate when you really want it, unless the machine itself can be modified drastically to take on bigger tubings and bigger pumps.

If that were the case, it would be easier to assemble a simple ECMO machine.
October 17, 2009 11:20 AM
Ed said...
Good comment ... simple ECMO systems(contrasted to the relatively complex traditional Bartlett-style roller pump ECMO systems) are rapidly being adopted for adults with H1N1 by many of my perfusionist colleagues across the country. These ECMO systems use the latest generation of centrifugal pumps, the low resistance PMP membrane oxygenators and dual lumen veno-venous cannula. The idea is to make the system easy for the bedside nurses and simple and safe enough minimize staffing depletion by allowing a single in-house perfusionist to be available for trouble-shooting.
October 20, 2009 7:12 PM
Anonymous said...
I definitely like the idea of thinking of unique ways to do things. That is how we make progress. BUT, I can assure you the capacity to provide ECMO support in the United States will far surpass the need for it even during a severe H1N1 crisis. The established ECMO community is geared up and ready for this and the Perfusion community in general is adapting and ready to support patients. The resources are there if institutions are willing to look for them and willing to accept the help. Trying to create a make-shift system with a Dialysis machine could be disasterous...although as I said before...I like the thought process.

And in response to the "ICU specialist" who doesn't believe in ECMO...you are doing a disservice to your patients by denying them the opportunity for this technology when appropriately applied. ECMO is not appropriate for every patient...just like mechanical ventilation is not appropriate for every patient. And certainly high pressure ventilation is dangerous and often deadly. But there is a patient population that benefits greatly from ECMO when properly applied. ECMO does have a proven value and has for years. Just about any study you find on anything can be picked apart by someone. I think you will find 1000's of health care professionals in 100s of institutions that have supported over 40,000 patients that would all disagree with your opinion...and I imagine those patients and family members would disagree with you also.
December 9, 2009 9:15 PM
Anonymous said...
UAE,
I am a PICU resident and in my country (united Arab emirates) we don't have ECMO machine and we lost some children, who were completely healthy, because we don't have it. I like this idea, and i would like to know more about how to set the dialysis machine to work as ECMO for example for 3kg infant.
December 25, 2009 12:04 AM
Gavin said...
i have lost a daughter in dubai on 28th May 2010. please contact me as I wish to start a request letter to the government to start these facilities in the country.
gav3107@aol.com
May 31, 2010 11:14 AM